In Ohio
I am in Ohio, I have been here for about a week (maybe more? Maybe less) – and I miss my wife a lot – I still can’t believe I have become one of ‘those guys’ (the ones that miss their wife when they travel) – I met only a few people, Mr. Wood (http://abuuthamn.muslimpad.com), and Abu Hurayrah (http://www.basilgohar.com/blog/), and the infamous Abu Muhammad who I came with.
I came here primarily to hook up with my friend Ameer, one of the first persons to work with me on Islamic Network (he had moved into my house for almost 9 months) – now, I am moving in to his apartment for 2 weeks in Cleveland while we start a new company together – (if it works, full time Islamic Scholarship here I come!, if not, half time Islamic scholarship here I come!). –
However, before leaving I do hope to meet Abul Layth (he is a few hours away, and the other Mr. Wood – plan is Abul Layth will come down thanksgiving –
The other big reason for being there was to visit my parents since I’ll be leaving for Jordan =)
I am slowly finding out among my friends and family, I was the only ‘Salafi’ ‘Salafi’ Meaning, that I considered Sufis heretics and Asharees heretics for no other reason then well that is what the official Salafi Line was – and all my friends are pretty open to this stuff anyway – (and yes, these guys have better things to do then care about these things anyway ):
Some threads of interest:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=145470#post145470
So many of my friends became soofie its not even funny! I am pissed as hell that no one told me but to be fair, no one ‘stays’ in touch with me, as I do not ‘stay’ in touch with anyone either – but I am glad to see its not just me and Abul Layth
Some additional threads of interest:
Mucking with the New Age Soofies (those who are still Salafi but wanna be traditional to)
http://forums.seekingilm.com/index.php?showtopic=1055
One More Big Name Salafi who became Soofie Recently:
Abu Aaaliyah:
http://web.mac.com/jawziyyah/iWeb/The%20Jawziyyah%20Institute/Home.html
Honestly, I can not hide my hatred for Salafis as a Salafi – I used to hate them for distorting the words of Ibn Taymiyah and the other scholars in order to justify their pathetic existence – which led me from one group of Salafis to another and then finally out of Salafiyah altogether -
But that same hated I have right now is being focused at the Soofies – yes, I have go go to go back to the basics and learn everything from the beginning – but if people like Nu Shaikh Ha Mim keller sincerely believe the prayers of everyone who has wiped over regular cotton socks has to be made up, him and his allies have done a pathetic job of conveying that – at least Salafis were all over the place with their dawah calling people whatever names – but we called people to what we believed in – soofies are pansies and pussies in general – I can’t imagine a soofie that came up to me in seven years and called me to the Traditional Way – if they did, they were sitting there in the back of the masjid with a silly look of inner peace, glasses and a intellectual gloss as if they do not need to mingle with the rest of the world – while they sit around gushing over ‘Shaikh Hamza’ like they are on his jock - I hate them for believing my prayers were invalid and never telling me about it, they would have just sit back and let me go to hell had I not heard it myself -
Everyone is a arrogant bastard these days and believes the others are misguided and doomed for hell – well, damn you all to! I damn you all to Paradise! I hope every misguided soul that tastes hell fire complains to Allaah about the so called Sufis and Salafis who did not do their utmost to stop him from that destructive path -
American Pie
My parents bought one of those nice wide screen tv’s so my Dad asked me if I wanted to watch American Pie! I don’t know what’s going on! (My friends soofie, my dad asking me if I want to watch American Pie) – but needless to say, apparently he had seen it already so when we switched on the DVD player (to test the TV), it was on already, so I heard part of the song that was on. And I used to LOVE this song –
(Don’t care to much for the words, I just like the way its sung, yes I just like ‘gay’ songs :))
November 15th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
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November 17th, 2006 at 10:21 am
as-salamu’alaikum,
As far as whether we are pansies or not for not calling you to follow traditional Islam… I think thats a bit off base.
We generally don’t participate in the ‘internet forums’ of Salafi’s, because most of it is simply a waste of one time and just ego’s clamoring after each other. No one really changes their mind based off of such things, but rather, Allah guides them when He chooses.
We make the knowledge available, if some sincere people want to learn, its there.
Anyway… from any casual reading of history you will find that Sufis are not intellectual pansies, in some tariqs you will find the intellectual scholarly types (Shaykh Nuh). On the other hand you will see tariqas which carry a strong tradition of, for example, Ottoman leadership and organization which no one could call pansy-ish.
Sas, I enjoy your blog keep it up wassalam
November 21st, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
When a man arrogates a certain manhaj to himself and does not think outside that paradigm that he has assigned for himself, then is it anybody else’s fault that the truth did not reach him?
The basic issue is, why don’t the “Sufis” speak out? Well for God’s sake what have they been doing for the past thirty to forty years? If you did not seek to look beyond your own prejudiced thought paradigm, is it anyone else’s fault? Unlike our methodologically challenged brethren, the “Sufis” do not possess the petrodollars to produce books with the glossiest paper any publisher can find. Whenever the “Sufis” speak, the widlest, and not to mention the vilest, accusations, vilifications and charges of “shirk,” “bidah” or “kufr” are thrown upon them. Is it no wonder than the “Sufis” have done a “lousy” job of letting everyone know that their prayers are invalid if they wiped their socks? The “Sufis” are “bidati,” “kafir” and “mushrik” to our methodologically challenged brethren. Why should the “Sufis” even bothering sharing the truth with anyone who arrogates a false truth to himself? Who would call you to the “Traditional way” when the “Traditional way” was “nothing but kufr, shirk and bidah.”? If Sheikh Nuh and his allies have a done a lousy job of letting you know of the invalidity of your prayers, then you have done an even lousier job of listening to them.
You hate the “Sufis” for believing that your prayers were invalid and never telling you about it? How about you start hating yourself for never giving the “Sufis” a chance? How about you start hating Albani for implanting all his followers with the assumption that all Sufis were free-thinking heretics? How about you start hating the world for being so cruel to you? Worse yet, how about you start hating Allah Himself for having misguided you? Can you do that?
Stop being a whiner and get down and dirty with some hardcore aqidah and fiqh (even tasawwuf if you prefer). What a pessimist!
Wa Alaikum Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu
Ahsan Irfan
November 21st, 2006 at 8:36 pm
Hi bro, salaam alaikum
Maybe you do not understand the full context of it -
There is a consesnus of 4 madhabs which no Sufi called me to -
Salafis don’t believe in it, so they did not call me to it -
I give everyone a chance - but you got to call me to something
Hell, I gave the sheeah chance when they gave me da’wah -
Sas
November 21st, 2006 at 8:41 pm
Let me try to re-explain:
I know many Sufis, they only called me to one thing:
1. hating terrorism
2. Tasawwuf
Sas
Most Salafis callled me to their DEFINITION of Tawhid -, etc.
Sas
November 22nd, 2006 at 2:34 am
You know many Sufis or “Sufis”?
Those who call to “hating terrorism” at the expense of the rest of the Shariah have really no clue what they’re on about. But that’s what American (or for that matter Western) Tasawwuf is about anyway. It’s kinda like saying that if some Muslims believe in the killing of innocent civilians, some oppose that doctrine, and the rest are quiet about it, somehow the Shariah mandates that killing innocent civilians is halal. Same case here. If some “Sufis” (namely the ones you’ve met) call to what they’ve called you to, and some Sufis have called to the whole tradition, and the rest are silent (at least to your ears) then somehow all of Tasawwuf is about hating terrorism and Tasawwuf at the expense of the Shariah. That’s selective.
Always remember this. The Truth will never come to you. The “Sufis” who call out to “their way,” the Salafis who call out to their definition of Tawhid, the Shiah who call out to their Imamiyah ideas…. all crap. Do you think the Truth is that cheap that it seeks people? Think again. If you want the truth, you’ll have to find it for yourself. The proper ulema, whether they ascribe to Tasawwuf or not, will always have their doors open. They will make public statements which will be there for all of to hear. But one thing they will not do is “call to something.” They will exhibit the truth, and that’s the end of it.
The way of the Orthodoxy is the three-level paradigm of Aqidah, Fiqh and Tasawwuf. Every alim from the first in the ummah to the last in the ummah ascribed to this paradigm in some form or another. It is for you to except or reject. It’s upto you. No one’s going to beckon you to come. But the door’s open….
Wa alaikum salam
Ahsan
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