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I love getting attention!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4600327.html - There may be a picture of me and Fatima on the actual newspaper (yes, I KNOW it is Fatima and I).
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24527&only&rss
http://digg.com/world_news/Hit_Your_Children_Well_3
http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/005923.html
Sas
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March 4th, 2007 at 11:34 am
You were warned!
March 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Not the kinda attention i’d enjoy… But then, whatever floats your boat eh.
March 5th, 2007 at 10:13 am
the sad part is that when guys like you go down…you ALWAYS take others down with you.
“Overzealous” youth much like yourself screwed Dr. Ali al Timimi and have railroaded a number of other innocent people in this country as well.
I guess it’s all fun and games — until the FBI rings at your doorbell. Oh yeah, while they are tearing up your house for evidence…the SWAT team will be kind of enough to let the women of your house use the bathroom — with the door open of course.
March 6th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Instead of criticising, without knowing the full of it, and when people changed and what not, why don’t you make du`aa’ for the muslims.
March 6th, 2007 at 10:48 am
Hit your kids as standard procedure? How barbaric and backwards is that? This guy is still living in the Stone Age. What a loser.
March 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
yeah….yeah….
i’m “criticising” ….
WHATEVER. Speaking the truth about what has been happening to Muslims in America because of dumb youth is just sooooooooo wrong?!?!? I am evil.
Umm Layth: What I know is that your husband and SAS used to bring up Jihad related matters all of the damn time a few years ago on PALTALK and on CLEARGUIDANCE — now both are Sufis….
….how convenient.
Samta69: Are you on crack?
March 6th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Convenient? What is that supposed to mean?
I don’t know about Sas, but as far as my husband goes (and for me), it would be an honor if he could truly label himself a sufi - that is, a true follower of tasawwuf.
Learn to accept that people change.
May Allaah guide us, aameen
March 7th, 2007 at 1:47 am
uh, when did my views on anything change except some sufi stuff such as Istigatha, and being more openminded to innovations and kalam?
If anything, IN is still as Salafi as you can be considering my beliefs are more in line with the Barelwis -
Sas
March 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
openminded to innovations and kalam????????????????????????
You almost make it sound like its a good thing! =/
March 8th, 2007 at 7:59 am
“Convenient? What is that supposed to mean?”
–It means…what it means. I, along with a number of brothers, find this new found conversion a bit strange — if not altogether disingenuous.
“I don’t know about Sas, but as far as my husband goes (and for me), it would be an honor if he could truly label himself a sufi - that is, a true follower of tasawwuf.”
–Well Ukhti…the fact of the matter is that Abul Layth could become a Shia and join the SCIRI (Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq) for all I care.
My point was simply that the youth — like SAS and your Husband — spent a considerable amount of time on Paltalk, CLEARGUIDANCE, and everywhere else for that matter talking a real big game. It was all “Shariah this” and “Jihad that” …
Remember the nick “IslamIs4u_AbulLayth” on Paltalk?
–This kind of brazen talk turned out to be of no benefit…and SAS is living proof of that. This guy seems to want the FBI to knock at his door. Basically, it has been my experience that the BIG TALKERS over the last few years ultimately turned out to be #1 witnesses for the US Govt. against our Shuyookh and others. This is the sad reality. I only wanted to address this issue of reckless talk…thats all.
“Learn to accept that people change.”
–Not only do I “accept” it…but I encourage it. Join a tariqa…become a whirling dervish…become a Mureed for Sidi Hamzah Yusuf Hanson…go to Pakistan and meet up with shady Pirs…IT’S ALL GOOD! lol
“May Allaah guide us, aameen”
–May Allah (AWJ) guide us to the Sunnah of His Prophet (saaws) and not the Sunnah of those upon Error, Ameen!
March 8th, 2007 at 11:25 am
Abu Ameenah is just jealous that we have accepted truth, while he is a misguided reveler in pseudo salafi rhetoric, giving Allah ‘hands’ and other anthropomorphic qualities.
The fact is you could become a satanist, pagan, or witch wannabe (though you may be one anyhow). Your claim that my conversion to Tasawwuf, and abandonment of the extremist tendencies of the psuedo-salafis (like your sick self), is disingenuous, is ridiculous claim. In fact, the only one who can truly know if my conversion to unadulterated truth (tasawwuf), is Allah. Can you see, oh insidious fool, the inner workings of my heart? Of course not. So do not make stupid claims that you can not defend. Lastly, I have never, and will never betray a Muslim, even if it be you (if you are even a Muslim anyhow). So do not act as if we have betrayed a Muslim, or will do such. Again, stop trying to be Allah. Oh ya, You can take your untenable and vile tirade and shove it up (or in) your dirty pseudo salafi gas pipe.
-Abul Layth
March 8th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
lol…
after reading your diatribe…two points come to mind:
1) For a Sufi…you’re an awfully angry sufi…C’mon what happened to all of the love and Muhabbah nonsense? Did Abdul Qadir Jilani teach you to speak like this?
2) It’s good to see that you still have some fight left in you. Most sufis start sounding quite peculiar after a while…you know…the whole “fanaa” thing. You still sound like the same old kid on PALTALK who used scream and shout. Only then, you were simply upon another extreme…
Like your Kunya…Abul Layth…your bark is worse than your bite. What you can do now is to get some magical sufi dua from Pakistan and start putting a hexes/curses on people. Sweeeeeet!
Also, if you do decide to become a whirling dervish…can you please put the video on youtube so that I could post it on my sucky blog?
March 8th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Like your Kunya…Abul Layth…your bark is worse than your bite.
Roar like a little lion all you want to…but it just sounds like a kid trying to act like a grown up.
Also, if you want to be a really good sufi…you should learn Urdu — not arabic. Most sufis from central & south asia frown upon too much arabic speaking.
Can I recommend that you read the following:
Bahishti Zewar or Fazaail Amaal…
March 8th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Abu Ameerah, how would you know my bark is worse than my bite? Have you seen me ‘float like a butterfly and sting like a bee’?
I didn’t think so - oh could be satanist.
Obviously you have been scarred by the ignorant sub-continental sufis. That’s too bad. I suppose that explains your idiocy. So when will you stop trying to be Allah, you could be satanist?
As for Bahishti Zewar, it was a nice Hanafi read. I am not hanafi however. Fadhaa’il-Al-’Amaal is a good read. Why would you recommend a book I have already read? I recommend you read Sunnah Notes 1 & 2 by Shaykh Gibril Haddad. In fact, I recommend you go visit him and vomit your pseudo-salafism baatil to him. His bark is quite nicer than mine
Something else I would like to mention. Since when does a Sufi not support valid Jihaad? Can you point out for me a single Sufi from amongst the past generations who refused to fight the Ta’tar, The Crusaders etc? I think I can name at least 12 major Sufi ‘Ulamaa’ that did take part in the struggle. Was it not Hasan Al Banna’, the Sufi intellectual, who started the revolt against the tawaagheet in masr?
Live beneath your sad little delusion known as pseudo-salafism and you will continue to be as stupid as you are today.
-Abul Layth ibn ‘Ataa’
March 8th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
“Abu Ameerah, how would you know my bark is worse than my bite? Have you seen me ‘float like a butterfly and sting like a bee’?”
lol…i like that little one…mashallah…i imagine that you are as angry right now as you once would get on PALTALK when you would refute other sufis and shia (people who are probably much better than you)…
i love how you find the need to defend your beliefs. If they were so great and valid…then why the need?
“Since when does a Sufi not support valid Jihaad? Can you point out for me a single Sufi from amongst the past generations who refused to fight the Ta’tar, The Crusaders etc?”
LOL…Typical Abul Layth…mentioning Jihaad for legimitacy. C’mon man…if got tired on Paltalk…why the hell do you keep up with it now. Furthermore, your current scholars have firmly rejected it. Why do feel the need to keep mentioning it?
At the end of the day…your just going to stay at home and eat tacos — or whatever the hell food you people eat. Arroz con Pollo — Guacamale — Frijoles…Carne asada…whatever.
BIG TALK akhi…same old sad Abul Layth…
Oh yeah, I find it funny that you are male nurse. The occupation is cool and everything. It’s just that Sidi Hamzah Yusuf Hanson once was a male nurse…hmmmmm…interesting connection. Are you half Greek, Abul Layth?
What happened to the LOVE Abul Layth…where is all of the Loooooove? Did they take it away from you? Were you tortured by non-sufis?
I remember how you used to once say that, “I would love to be a nurse for the Mujahideen”….on Paltalk…what ever happened to those plans? Are you just toooo busy at the nursing home or hospice where you work?
BIG TALK Abul Layth….talk that ultimately ruins lives.
March 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
also remember tough guy….
i don’t particulary give a damn what you believe…
for all I care…you could become a “5-percenter” or Bhuddist…
in fact…i would recommend that you become a whirling dervish…it’s better than being a male nurse.
March 8th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Abû Hurayrah relates that Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak a good word or remain silent. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his neighbor. And whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should show hospitality to his guest.†[ Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahîh Muslim ]
Once, Mu`âdh b. Jabal asked the Prophet (peace be upon him) to inform him of some good work that would admit him into Paradise and distance him from the Hellfire. The Prophet (peace be upon him) mentioned to him the virtues of many good deeds, then said: “Shall I inform you of the foundation of all of that?â€
Mu`âdh said: “Certainly.â€
The Prophet (peace be upon him) took hold of his tongue and said: “Restrain yourself from this.â€
Mu`âdh then asked: “O Prophet of Allah! Are we held to task for the things that we say?â€
The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied: “May your mother be bereaved of you, O Mu`âdh! Does anything topple people headlong into the Hellfire save the harvests of their tongues?†[ Sunan al-Tirmidhî and Sunan Ibn Mâjah ]
March 8th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Mashallah..8)
JazakallahKhair for that akhi Shaikh N Bake…
It is unfortunate that as Muslims we sully ourselves when we attack one another in a blatantly personal manner or use foul language & related insults (which are likely Haraam).
Some in the past have argued that four-letter words are Halaal to use and suppose that those individuals will simply continue to do so, Audhoobillah.
Allahualim, but it seems that groups that speak most about the issue of “Adab” often have followers who lack the most adab…
…and Allah (Azza wa’Jall) knows best…
March 8th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
It’s just sad that as Muslims we resort, almost immediately, to calling another Kaffir — or other statements that accuse one of being outside the fold of Islam.
March 8th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Brother, the reaction you received was due to your pointing fingers.
If anything, both of you need to calm down and not fall into this foolish game. Whatever differences you have doesn’t mean you stop having husn al-dhann.
March 8th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Umm Layth:
Well put, indeed. I agree.
irrespective of what I have previously stated Sister…at no point do I recall having questioned the Islam of Abul Layth.
I in no way wanted to debate or question his being a Muslim.
March 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
You admitted that you and a few other brothers have questioned the sincerity of abul layth in changing his beliefs. You also hinted that Abul Layth would fall into mudhaharah. So I put both of those things together and to me it most definitely seems like questioning his Islaam. That is why I understand the sarcastic responses towards you, because to me he was only doing what you did first.
As Muslims, we need to better our husn al-dhann.
The other day I got caught up trying to tell someone what was wrong and what was right and instead it turned into a me vs you thing. I wasn’t harsh in what I said and the first ones to lash out at me were them. I didn’t want to make it a me vs you fight. I wanted to discuss the issue at hand - the issue that I thought needed correction on. Instead, they made so many false assumptions on me and till now they believe they are right. Some of them remember me when I too was ‘hyper’ and got myself banned from forums and used that against me to support their lies and lack of husn al-dhann.
I wasn’t interested in assuming things about their sincerity or anything about their lives that I wasn’t aware of. And to be honest, I know I got back what I have given in the past and it felt/feels miserable.
So the only reason I am mentioning this is because your assumptions will only bring about a human reaction. We (as humans) can only take so much and sometimes we try to hold back our tongues but it’s hard when your honor is on the line. If you don’t like how it feels when people question you akhi, don’t question those muslims around you when there is no need to question them.
If it is the beliefs you have a problem with, that’s fine. You can decide to discuss these differences as civil people or what made him change in a civil manner or you can just drop the issue, ignore the person, do no attacking and leave the past in the past.
March 8th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
“You admitted that you and a few other brothers have questioned the sincerity of abul layth in changing his beliefs. You also hinted that Abul Layth would fall into mudhaharah. So I put both of those things together and to me it most definitely seems like questioning his Islaam.”
–Actually Sister I did not question his Islam and niether was this my intention. I did mention the term “disingenuous” … but you can take it for what it’s worth. I was referring to his “conversion” of sorts — and not his Islam.
–In terms of my reference to “Mudhaharrah” … this was in a general sense and it was more directed toward “overzealous” Muslim youth. I did not directly accuse Abul Layth of engaging in Mudharrah and neither was it my intention to do so. Furthermore, it is not necessarily the case that one immediately becomes a disbeliever when he/she cooperates with the Kuffar against Muslims (in some legal framework or court of law).
–Sister, please don’t “put things together”…as this kind of deductive reason is not always 100% accurate.
“So the only reason I am mentioning this is because your assumptions will only bring about a human reaction.”
–If this is a normal reaction…then Dawah for Abul Layth must be very difficult. Think about our Da’ees for example who confront Kuffar that boldly make horrible statements against or dear Prophet Nabi-e-pak-Kareem (saaws). Would Abul Layth openly curse and attack such people if they were to tarnish the reputation of the Prophet of Islam?
–I also thought Sufis were all about “Adab” … at least that is what I have been hearing the last decade or so. Abul Layth should know that cursing at people, using foul language, and insulting people is not being a true Sufi — and neither is it part of the Methodology of the Prophet (saaws)
March 8th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Labels mean nothing if we all are trying to be Muslim. In such a case, every single one of us needs to have better adab, and we need to start with ourselves.
March 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
There is a distinction between one trying to follow Tasawwuf and being a sufi. I can understand why that would be beyond your understanding as a pseudo salafi. The fact is, you did insinuate quite alot in your previous threads. I always enjoy when people try to explain away their indirectness once the tables turn upon them. Anyhow, stop trying to be Allah Abu Ameenah. It is simple. I did not choose tasawwuf for any other reason that it being the haqq. Your claim it was disingenuous, if taken for what it is worth, is delving into matters you have no knowledge of.
One needs only to read what was implied in the statement where abu Ameerah said,
“This kind of brazen talk turned out to be of no benefit…and SAS is living proof of that. This guy seems to want the FBI to knock at his door. Basically, it has been my experience that the BIG TALKERS over the last few years ultimately turned out to be #1 witnesses for the US Govt. against our Shuyookh and others. This is the sad reality. I only wanted to address this issue of reckless talk…thats all.”
Guilty nafs abu ameera? Who are you talking too? Yourself? It seems so. And yes, Mudhaaharah - asli, is kufr Al Akbar, so what Umm Layth makes sense. And yes I am sure she knows exceptions exist. We judge upon what you manifestly implied. It was clear so no need for you to be apologetic, unless that is your way of recanting your baatil and attempting to apologize. Then maybe someone will listen to your non-sense.
You insulted me. I insulted you back, and will continue to until you realize your not Allah.
I am glad to see your panzy apologetics. Maybe Allah will shed his mercy on your lost pseudo-salafi soul and grant you the manhaj of our noble Salaf. Insha’allah he will. Maybe then you will pull the planks from your own evil eyes before trying to do so on others.
March 8th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
I’m sorry but Umm Layth, I feel that you are being unjust here. You defend here not because of the fact that you speak for the truth (which you don’t) but rather he’s your husband. Abul Layth’s comment’s were extremely rude. Don’t try to say, we need to start with ourselves. The fact that you “playoff” your husband’s rudeness like this is very offensive and immature. I wouldn’t be suprised. Allah says in the Quran, evil men are for evil women. Not necessarily pertaining to fornicators, God forbid, but it also pertains to people who are bad, they will only be with bad people. Dont’ get me wrong, I’m not saying you are from the fornicators, Authobillah, but it would only make sense why you are defending your husband with such zeolotry which makes me want to vomit!!!
Allah says in the Quran, “the hypocrites are for the hypocrite women, commanding evil and forbidding good.” I see that you defending your husband’s rudeness and justifying your actions is a sign of a hypocritical ACT.
March 9th, 2007 at 12:13 am
Dear ‘Brother’,
What is rude is to be lied upon. What is rude to be backbitten by those out to question the innermost of an individual. This claimant to know the hearts abu ameerah stated,
“It means…what it means. I, along with a number of brothers, find this new found conversion a bit strange — if not altogether disingenuous.”
a) He, and apparently other backbiting individuals, find my ‘conversion’ disingenuous.
b) By claiming such, they claim to know sincerity or lack thereof within my heart. Yet it is an impossibility for these lying backbiting scum to know such, unless they claim divinity for themselves, and I would not be shocked if they do.
I find it strange that you launch a tirade upon Umm Layth, yet no where in your post do you dare point your finger towards the one who started this baatil. Of course, the one who casts aspersion on the character of another, is in fact full of that which they have thrown on another; in this case hypocrisy. For it is hypocritical of you to accuse Umm Layth of ‘injustice’ while you have been unjust to the entire topic by refusing to show contempt for the evil actions of abu ameerah and his cohort brethren who apparently sit around finding supposed faults in others, than finding their own faults.
The only thing that should make you vomit is your own hypocrisy. The only evil I see here is you and your silence for a greater evil. But the fact is, you have a personal vendetta against Umm Layth or myself, most probably some twisted part of your caprice, there is not telling what psycho disorder lingers in your innermost. Nor do we care what does. If you find me rude, or my comments as such, too bad. What you really want is this; to make us feel subdued by the montage of attacks the pseudo-salafis and cohorts throw towards us for being, as they incorrectly claim, ‘disingenuous’. A close friend of mine, Yusuf Khattab, made a good point the other day in a conversation I had with him. He basically said the pseudo-salafis attack the ’sufis’ knowing they will not respond. The fact is, they do not respond because they know it will harm their innermost. I on the other hand, am not as intelligent as they. The murid sees what I do not. So, I will defend myself from the lies and slanders of the psycho individuals, may God guide them. I refuse for you and your psycho misfits to lie, misconstrue, and or slander myself or sas or any other individual that seeks tasawwuf out.
What you did not want is myself or anyone else to respond. You will, of course, always behind ‘bad adab’ themes, but the fact is, you point not your finger at the one who started the attacks. Why I ask? Because it is you who are unjust. If the scenario does not befit your whim, you lash out. Pluck the plank from your own eye. Clean your own filthy doorstep first before casting aspersions upon Umm Layth. Though, in all honesty, I doubt you can.
-AbuL Layth
March 9th, 2007 at 1:40 am
What a poor misuse of english grammar displayed by all. You people need more time in basic english, and less in religious ramblings. I will ignore the logical correctness of the aforementioned arguments and focus on its grammatical correctness. Abul Layth’s (verbose) style of writing is distracting from the issue at hand.
Abul Layth, is that nurse as in RN or LVN?
-Grammar Nazi
March 9th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Ya, I did not edit or proof-read. You’ll get over it though.
If not then you have OCD.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:08 am
GRAMMAR NAZI: lol…I don’t know what kind of male nurse he is…but I do know that it involves changing bed pans. Right Abul Layth? Correct me if I am wrong. (I am sure you will)
Just curious GRAMMAR NAZI — not that I am trying to cast aspersions here — are you Muslim?
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“I always enjoy when people try to explain away their indirectness once the tables turn upon them. Anyhow, stop trying to be Allah Abu Ameenah.”
–LOL….there is so much to respond too…so little time. This is Abul Layth at his finest. He pulls the old bait-n-switch. In order to try and make a point — which he usually loses in an angry tirade — he first goes on the offensive and then plays the sad helpless victim. Awwwww! An excellent defensive tactic akhi.
–I doesn’t surprise me as this is the same nonsense he used to pull on people on PALTALK just a few years ago. He would spend countless hours railing against Shia, Sufis, Modernists, Converts, etc.
–Abul Layth…you merely argued and attacked people to cover yourself for your sins then — and you continue to do so now. Remember how you basically concluded that using four-letter/curse words was Halaal?
–Remember how you used to call people like “Feroz” (a Shia) and some Sufi — “KUFFAAAAR” ???? The fact of the matter is Abul Layth — this is what you do to just about anyone who dares to disagree with you. The sad part is that you’ve done it for years — and you continue to do so.
Abul Layth…you gleefully attacked the beliefs and intentions of people like “Feroz” (and others) years ago…now you can’t handle the same for yourself. LOL…typical Abul Layth!
–Keep on playing the victim akhi…you lose more and more credibility each time you speak.
–Finally, YOUR comments…YOUR accusations…YOUR insults…far exceed the boundaries of civil debate or dialogue. You have chosen to hurl insults and levy accusations in order to avoid having to deal with the matter at hand.
–I DID NOT QUESTION YOUR ISLAM…Neither would I want to. If anything…I told you to do whatever it is you want. Join a tariqa or become a whirling dervish….all I asked for was the video of you spinning about so that I could post it. I think that would be more than interesting.
“Then maybe someone will listen to your non-sense.”
–LOL….I sure have you listening though. Or at least trying to respond to me — in between shifts oh Male Nurse.
“You insulted me. I insulted you back, and will continue to until you realize your not Allah.”
–”Akh”…you are someone who does little but insult. Who thinks they are Allah (awj)? You are the one who BLATANTLY attacked me. YOU accused me of being an idolater — even though it is likely that YOU believe it is halaal to worship at graves.
–”Akh”…I did think that noble Sufis like yourself were supposed to be people of Adab. Look at how you treat others? I wonder how you will attack GRAMMER NAZI now…
“The murid sees what I do not.”
–LOL. What a load! Sounds like someone has been watching too much Star Wars. C’mon young SkyWalker…just use the sufi “force”…
–What a cop out…just another way for you to cover your sins. Basically, you mean that until and unless you are good enough murid — you will continue ATTACKING, CURSING, and SLANDERING others.
“Guilty nafs abu ameera? Who are you talking too? Yourself?”
–No. I was talking to you I thought…lol. Anyway…as far as apologizing to someone like you…that’ll be the day.
–The problem Abul Layth is that I already know your tricks. I know what you are capable of…I know how you argue and rant. Therefore…it’s really kinda’ funny to me. I would be more surprised if you acted like a real sufi and simply kept your mouth shut — and at least tried to be humble. However, you won’t do that — not ever probably.
–Hey is the whirling dervish thing doesn’t pan out…the next step for you could be to become a Shia. Sweeeeeeeeet!
March 9th, 2007 at 8:22 am
Yeah…yeah…
you used to speak with Yusuf Khattab years ago on PALTALK as well. You used him then to defend your arguments as well.
Hmmmm a Jewish convert defending sufism. What a surprise…lol…kinda’ reminds me of Stephen Schwartz (an Islam bashing Jewish Sufi)
Don’t use Brother Yusuf Khattab to defend your weak arguments. Yusuf Khattab comes across as a far better person than you. I doubt he attack and slander people the way you have.
…but then again…you’re the victim…sorry…
March 9th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
[quote]Therefore…it’s really kinda’ funny to me. I would be more surprised if you acted like a real sufi and simply kept your mouth shut — and at least tried to be humble. However, you won’t do that — not ever probably.[/quote]
It’s funny to those who read this page to see that you are the one that has chosen to start the attacks. Brother, need to humble yourself first if you are expect anyone else to.
Grow up.
March 9th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Sorry but I must say that Abu Ameerah after carefully this post’s comments did not start anything. More like Umm Layth was probably suffering from menopausal hot flashbacks or due to the fact that she just itching for intimacy and couldn’t get cozier but attacking abu ameerah outright to land a warm spot in her husband’s lap.
March 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
You’ll have to forgive me you could be satanist but I am not going to waste my time reading that long post. Maybe you have time to get off on your own stupidity, but I am not blessed with such. When you decide to recant your filth, let me know insha’allah. Maybe then will you find me kinder.
And may our Lord curse you evermore “brother” of satan and his cohorts. Amin!
March 9th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Astagfirullaah ‘Brother’ these words you utter shall be bought forth on Yaum al-Qiyamaah, Allaah knows how you shall be able to justify such filth.
March 10th, 2007 at 6:03 am
Salaamz .
Some people never change.
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “Two qualities are not found together in a believer: miserliness and ill-temper.
Abu Ameerah you gave him a chance to resort to his normal self , It’s always difficult trying to be something your not.
Lol one could be a shia, and Abul layth would call them a pseudo-salafi never balanced always extreme.
He cant help himself it’s his nature. may Allah help and guide him and his wife . Ameen.
March 10th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Abul Layth- CNA?
March 10th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Suprising that Abul Layth’s mental illness that triggers worshipping of idols has not resulted in him cursing out Tickkeytoo
Hypocrisy!
March 12th, 2007 at 8:25 am
“Tickketyboo” & “Abul Layth’s Sufi Shaykh” :
i agree…
“…may Allah help and guide him and his wife . Ameen.”
-Ameen!
March 13th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Bismillahi Rahmaani Raheem
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=20375&ln=eng&txt=tasawwuf
May Allah protect and guide us ya Rabbi.
May Allah unite the Muslims.
May Allah save us from hypocracy of all forms, Ameeen.
Ya akhwaan, remember, silence is wisdom.
I remember reading one time about this scholar who said, “I once debated with a fool, and I lost. I debated with a wise man, and won.”
March 13th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Fucking idiots.
Sas
March 13th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Here’s a poem that I thought might go with this area of discussion. When I wrote it, I was really enraged at someone.
O’ Fake One
O’ Enemy of Allah,
Perhaps you think nobody is watching you,
Going about day by day with your fake personality,
Your artificial words and fake promises,
You visit the sick and help the weak,
For their gratitude you later seek.
However when you realize,
You gained no returns nor thanks,
You rebel and go from one ear to the other with your evil slander,
With your gossip and rumors that you spread,
Attempting to destroy the mumineen
You violently strive day and night and hours on end.
You claim you contribute to society with your great deeds and works,
Yet you plot day and night to destroy the believers with laughs and smirks.
Your door swings right and left,
You take what you like from the religion and leave the rest!
When one corrects you, with your toilet mouth you curse right and left!
Indeed you claim to be the best!
With your seemingly knowledgeable self!
You make others believe you are above them in all things,
Your sarcastic toungue and your vulgar speech
People smile yet they secretly despise you with utter disgust,
For your hatred for the truth is plain as the full moon,
Your heart is covered with black filth and dust.
Do you think your slander will help you that day?
When you’re made to walk on your hands and not your legs?
When you’re given your book in the left for all your dirty lived days?
Or is it Allah that you plan to deceive?
Nay! Only yourself – not even your fake friends and shayateen.
You were warned by those who loved you,
Yet you craved to fill that deep empty void,
Bereft of eman, you lived your life with hardship and tiresome toil,
Waging war with the Allah and His Messenger,
You can NEVER seem to fill that empty never-ending void.
You live your life arguing to and gathering other’s faults,
With your skillfully portrayed speech,
You thought you overcame the truth,
Endless debates with those more knowledeble then you,
You squandered your time in skillfully misguiding the weak,
With your misguided concepts you so carefully studied,
And when you thought you won over the hearts,
Nay the Angels recorded each time you shattered their naïve little hearts!
In the end you deceived others with your artificial words and hidden slander,
Squandering your wealth to fill your bulging stomach full of putrid disease,
Miserly denying help and aid to the poor who came to your door,
Only to seek out your empty promises-Instead you haughtily slammed your door!
With your quick ignorance and judgements,
You turned them away with a swiftness and deep rooted resentment!
O’ Enemy Allah please answer me!
Do you think you shall succeed?
Do you actually believe your hidden jinni and shayateen?
That haunt you when you don’t do as they please?
May Allah give them their rights!
Those who you deceived
Those you attempted to break
Those you slandered and destroyed.
Allah gives you respite O’ Enemy of Allah!
You get all that you want and more!
You will get everything you ever asked for!
Soon you will meet your Day
And Allah Al-Jabaar will quickly settle the scores!
So take my advice O’ Fake Muslim,
As you hide behind your deceiving looks of piety-many books and great words,
Take heed before it’s too late,
Stop before the day you won’t awake…
And before you find yourself alone with no more chances,
To give back to those who’s honor you slandered
And those whose rights you stole with your wicked mischief,
That Day awaits you- when you will be reckoned in the Court of Allah,
So brief, so suddenly, Recompense awaits you, and you will rapidly fall!
Oum Abdurrahman
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March 13th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
I found this:::
30 Signs of the Hypocrites
Shaykh `Aa’id Abdullah al-Qarnee
30 Signs of the Hypocrites © 1995 Al-Irshaad
Falsehood and Lying
Treachery
Showing insolence and licentiousness in argumentation
Breaking one’s promise
Laziness in worship
Showing off
Lack of remembrance of Allah
Hastiness in prayer
Slandering those who give themselves freely to good deeds from among the believers and the righteous
Mocking the Qur’an, the Sunnah and the Messenger, sallallahu `alaihi wa sallam
The protective oath
Disliking to spend for the sake of Allah
Desertion and abandonment of the Muslims
Originating false rumours and causing sedition
Finding fault with Allah’s decree
Bringing down the honour of the righteous
Remaining away from the congregational prayer
Causing mischilef while claiming to establish peace
Outward behaviour contradicting what is in the heart
Fear of unpleasant events, incidents and happenings
False excuses
Commanding the evil and preventing the good
Tying one’s hands back out of stinginess
Forgetting Allah
Denial of the promise of Allah and His Messenger
Concern for the outward appearance and neglect of the innner condition
Eloquence, long-winded speech, boasting and bragging
Lack of understanding of the religion
Not sinning in front of the people (due to fear of them) but showing boldness to Allah by committing sins in secrecy
Rejoicing at the affliction of the believers with a calamity and being saddened at their being touched by joy and pleasure
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 am
“Fucking idiots.”
Sas
–Well spoken from a self proclaimed “Faqih”…
“OumAbdurrahman”: I think you hurt their feelings…
LOL
March 15th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Asalam Aleikoum Wr Wb,
Hayakoum Allah. Ok, im a lil angry
Steven Shwartz being compared to me? The only blood I share with him would be on my hands.(figure of speech)
Next, how can I defend Abu Layth when he has more eelem than I do. BTW I am faaaaaaaaaar from Sufia but what benifit would I have bashing Abu Layth here. Sincere advice can be given on the telephone and or email.
I still love Abu Layth akhi,and one of the only differences between he and I is I would drop kick Hamza Useless Handsome in the face while he went into sajud (figure of speech)(inshallah)and I don’t think Abu Layth would.
Fiamanillah,
Akhoukoum Fillah Yousef al-Khattab
http://www.al-buruj.com
P.S. Sas, what up? Long time no see akhi!
March 16th, 2007 at 7:55 am
“…I would drop kick Hamza Useless Handsome in the face…”
LOL (sorry, but that was too funny akhi)
March 16th, 2007 at 7:57 am
“…I would drop kick Hamza Useless Handsome in the face…”
LOL…that was too funny akhi…
March 16th, 2007 at 11:42 am
As-Salam Alaykum
If you drop kick my face then I will ask my mureerds to hex you.
Next time when I attend the State of the Union with our beloved President, I’m going to let him on who plotted against me.
Wassalam
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf
March 16th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Not much! I am in Jordan ! (though in the states right now!)
Where are you now?
Sas
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Jordan is Awesome::::
BUT in the States you have more freedome of everything….
but who wants to pay taxes to the you know whos..*don’t want to right the ‘z’ word here because they always look for someone to attack them but anyways…
Jordan is amazing, You can grow anything in the ground, without work it just comes right up. Allah’s baraka is in the soil here subhanAllah.
There is more to life then just fiqh….there is sooo many many amazing miracles in the creation of Allah. Really, we waste our time….
Spring is here,and it’s something special in Jordan. You won’t find spring like this in any other part of the world…I’m sure of it.
This place if full of history full of acient stories.
Great home to make for anyone wanting to flee darul harb….
June 17th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
The sin of finding faults in others
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim
… ‘Abd Allah reported that the Prophet of Allah, upon him be peace, said, “A believer is not a fault-finder and is not abusive, obscene, or course.”
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #329
… Ibn ‘Abbas said, “If you wish to mention the faults of your friend, mention your own faults first.”
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #330
… Ibn ‘Abbas said on the following verse of the Qur’an, “Nor defame one another” (49:11), “Do not spend your time finding fault with one another.”
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #545
Jubayr ibn Nufayr reported that Mu’adh ibn Jabal said, “If you love someone, do not quarrel with him and do not annoy him. Do not ask others about him, for the one you ask might be his enemy and thus tell you things about him that are not true and thus break you apart.”
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #889 and Ibn Hibban
‘Amr ibn al ‘As said, “…I am amazed at one who spots an impurity in the eye of another but is unable to detect it in his/her own eye, or who attempts to remove a grudge from another’s heart while making no attempt to remove grduges from his/her own heart. I have never blamed anyone for the confidences of mine that they have betrayed. How could I, when already they have given me reason for pause?”
Hadith - Bukhari’s Book of Manners #1295
Bilal ibn Sa’d al Ash’ari reported that Mu’awiyah wrote to Abu Darda’ “Write to the wrongdoers of Damascus.” So he asked, “What do I have to do with the wrongdoers of Damascus? How will I know them?” Abu Darda’s son, Bilal said, “I will write to them,” which he did. Then Abu Darda’ said [to Bilal], “How did you know to whom to write? You could not have known they were wrongdoers unless you were one of them. Begin with yourself!” So he did not address the letter in anyone’s name.*
*i.e. he didn’t single out a specific person as a wrongdoer, but spoke about wrongdoings in general, to come as a reminder (of Quran and Sunnah) to the people.
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